A BATTERY MOOCH POST: I was wrong about the Samsung 26F!
I was wrong!
The Samsung ICR18650-26F does NOT use the same volatile chemistry as LiPo batteries.
In a post in August I said it did. That is incorrect. As the MSDS document for the 26F shows, it uses the same “hybrid” NMC chemistry as that used in the 25R, VTC4/5, HE2/4, and other batteries we consider to be relatively safe to vape with.
NMC chemistry, nickel-manganese-cobalt, is one of multiple chemistries that use the “ICR” manufacturer’s model number prefix. Another one using that prefix is LCO, lithium-cobalt-oxide, which is used in LiPo batteries and is significantly more volatile than the other Li-Ion chemistries.
So while the 26F has a low 5.2A rating, low capacity for an under-10A battery, and I don’t recommend buying it, it is not any more dangerous to use than other batteries with the same chemistry like the 25R, VTC4/5, and HE2/4.
My apologies for any confusion this has caused. Bench test results for the 26F will be posted soon.
https://imgur.com/a/ayuEY
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Samsung 26F 5.2A 2600mAh Bench Test Results…just not worth it
Bottom Line: This cell has a low current rating, 5.2A, but uses the safer “hybrid” NMC (nickel-manganese-cobalt) chemistry version of “ICR”. It does not use the more volatile LCO (lithium-cobalt oxide) chemistry version of ICR that is also used in LiPo’s. NMC chemistry is used in the 25R, VTC4/5, HE2/4, and other cells we use often and consider to be pretty safe.
It also has a low capacity rating, 2600mAh, compared to several other <10A batteries. There’s very little reason for a vaper to use this battery. If you do use them, stay below 15W to get what you can from these cells without the weak battery warning appearing immediately. The 18650 ratings table has been updated to include this cell.
Test results, discharge graph, photos: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/samsung-26f-5-2a-2600mah-bench-test-results-just-not-worth-it.773291/
All my test results to date: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/
18350/18500 ratings and pulse performance data: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/18350-safety-grades-and-pulse-performance-data.7566/
18650 current ratings and safety grades: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/18650-safety-grades-picking-a-safe-battery-to-vape-with.7447
26650 ratings and pulse performance data: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/26650-safety-grades-and-pulse-performance-data.7554/
THE VAPORESSO NEBULA MOD & ESTOC TANKS, A LITTLE FROM CHINA, THE LAST CONTEST WINNER AND A NEW CONTEST!
A PBusardo Review – The Vaporesso Nebula Mod & Estoc Tanks + The Last Contest Winner & A New Contest!
In this video, we talk about the upcoming Reno event, see a bit from the China events, review the Vaporesso Nebula mod and Estoc tanks, find out who won the last contest and kick off a new one!
The Links:
National Vape Expo
Vaporesso
Vanguard Smoke
Haka
Kangertech
Digiflavor
The Video:
*NOTE: Any use of these videos in part or in their entirety without Phil Busardo’s expressed written consent is strictly prohibited.
The Photos:
Vaporesso’s Response to the Uwell Ceramic Report:
the-safety-of-porous-ceramic-application-to-e-cigarette-oct-2016REGULATOR WATCH – Vapers Vote – Conley on Trump & Post-Election Fight
Brent Stafford interviews Gregory Conley in this episode of Regulator Watch…
Which major party candidate is more likely to end President Obama’s anti-vaping policies, Hillary Clinton or Donald J. Trump?
Gregory Conley, the president of the American Vaping Association says if you are a single-issue voter “the orange-guy might be your best bet” to save the vaping industry.
In this episode of RegWatch, we meet-up with Conley at the Smoke-Free Alternatives Trade Association annual conference in Hollywood, Florida—SFATA is the leading trade organization representing the U.S. vaping industry.
Conley walks us through the current legislative battle and explains what Congress urgently needs to do in order to modernize the predicated date and save vaping.
E-Cigarettes : Welcome Back, Big Tobacco – the fifth estate
This is worth a watch and a share. Interesting look into e-cigarettes from a Canadian perspective.
Big Tobacco is trying clean up its image, moving into the booming e-cigarette business which continuing to peddle the deadly tobacco products. This has left public health officials in Canada, the U.K. and the US
Five million Canadians still smoke. Could e-cigarettes help wean them over to a safer nicotine delivery device? Many ex-smokers say ‘yes.’ E-cigarettes are their salvation.
Health Canada is on the cusp of deciding how e-cigarettes should be regulated. Mark Kelly heads to England — a country that has taken bold steps in embracing the e-cigarette as a safer alternative. Will Canada? And what will this mean for our e-cigarette industry?
Until now, e-cigarettes with nicotine have not been endorsed by Health Canada. And that’s kept Big Tobacco out of the Canadian market. Will new regulations open the doors for a tarred industry to join in the e-cigarette revolution?
CONGRATS KELLY!!
Congratulations to Kelly Oxendine who one a prize pack in a recent “Not A Contest” 🙂 Kelly can be seen with her winnings. Use them in good health Kelly!
CONGRATS CHUCK!!
Congratulations to Chuck Miller!! He won the Herakles tanks and the Haka MT-80 in a “Not A Contest” 🙂 He can be seen with his winnings. Thanks for the Thumbs Up Chuck!!
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Energy Vap 35A 3000mAh Bench Test Results…a dangerously overrated 20A 2700mAh battery!
Bottom Line: This cell was sent to me by Phil Busardo…thank you! It is an overrated and rewrapped cell that I am rating at 15A and 2700mAh. If you are vaping with it at its 35A rating and there is a mod malfunction or accidental button press the cell can get hot enough to possibly vent. This is unacceptable and clearly shows that this is not a 35A cell.
Thanks Mooch! Got this one in France and sent it right to the expert!! 🙂
-Phil Busardo
It appearance is identical to the Samsung 30Q but its performance is lower than the ones I have tested before. It’s probably a lower grade cell.
The 18650 ratings table has been updated to include this cell.
Test results, discharge graph, photos: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/energy-vap-35a-3000mah-bench-test-results-a-dangerously-overrated-20a-2700mah-battery.771617/
All my test results to date: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/
18350/18500 ratings and pulse performance data: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/18350-safety-grades-and-pulse-performance-data.7566/
18650 current ratings and safety grades: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/18650-safety-grades-picking-a-safe-battery-to-vape-with.7447
26650 ratings and pulse performance data: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/26650-safety-grades-and-pulse-performance-data.7554/
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: A123 ANR26650M1-B 2400mAh 3.3V 26650 Bench Test Results…an extraordinary battery, with issues
Bottom Line: This is an extraordinary cell that I am rating at 30A. The two cells I received from EnerCig and the two from Nkon appear to have come from the same batch.
The datasheet has a “maximum continuous discharge” rating of 70A in the datasheet. But at that temperature, about 85°C, the cell will have a significantly reduced cycle life. This rating is an absolute maximum, not a level you should operate the battery at for every cycle. To allow direct comparison against other batteries I am rating this cell at a level, 30A, which limits the temperature to 60°C to ensure good cycle life. Above this temperature the cell’s aging accelerates significantly. The cell can easily be pulsed at levels above 80A though.
This cell’s lithium-ferrous-phosphate (LFP) chemistry is the safest of the Li-Ion chemistries we use. While this should never be used as an excuse to do so, these A123’s can take a lot of abuse before going into thermal runaway. If they do go into runaway their reaction isn’t as violent as the other chemistries. But this cell requires a 3.6V charger!
The voltage of this cell is very steady for most of the discharge, very similar to LiPo’s. This is great for unregulated/mechanical mod users. The iJoy 4200mAh 26650 is a better choice for vaping at up to about 40A though.
The 26650 ratings table has been updated to include this cell.
Test results, discharge graph, photos: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/a123-anr26650m1-b-2400mah-3-3v-26650-bench-test-results-an-extraordinary-battery-with-issues.770987/
All my test results to date: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/
18350/18500 ratings and pulse performance data: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/18350-safety-grades-and-pulse-performance-data.7566/
18650 current ratings and safety grades: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/18650-safety-grades-picking-a-safe-battery-to-vape-with.7447
26650 ratings and pulse performance data: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/26650-safety-grades-and-pulse-performance-data.7554/
A BILLION LIVES – THE HOLLYWOOD PREMIERE
We are grateful for all the support the community has given us over the past year.
To thank you, we’re giving away free tickets to our Hollywood Premiere at the famous Cinerama Dome Theatre on October 26th so we hope you’ll seize that opportunity to invite people caring about these Billion Lives.Details:
Wednesday, October 26th, 2016
Arclight Hollywood Cinerama Dome Theatre
6360 W Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 900286:30pm – Red Carpet Arrivals
7:30pm – Screening Begins
9:15pm – Event EndsParking: Arclight Cinema will give our guests $3 parking if parking ticket is validated in the theater
Attire: Smart CasualLink to signup for tickets:
https://goo.gl/forms/FLc7ZgwOWsHoDfWz2Special guests:
Deandre Jordan – LA Clippers (6x AllStar)
ErinCoscarelli – NFL Network Anchor
Robert Horry – SportsCaster NBA
Tito Jackson – Jackson 5
Vernon Sundiata – Gaines Detroit Pistons (2x AllStar)
Judge FaithJenkins – MSNBC/Judge Faith Daytime ProgramAnd others still to come.
For all our friends in Los Angeles, A Billion Lives will be playing regularly at Laemmle Music Hall (on Wilshire Blvd across from The Academy) four times a day for a full week from October 28th through at least November 4th.
Go here to see showtimes and buy tickets:
http://www.laemmle.com/films/41306.
Let’s all together make this special event at this mythic Cinerama an historic moment by bringing there people to share this moment with us all and please spread the word about the the full week display at Laemmle so that people willing to know the truth can see the movie.
Best regards,
Florence THEIL #A BILLION LIVES TEAM
on behalf of Aaron Biebert
Director & Executive Producer A BILLION LIVES.