Category: Battery Mooch
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Radio Shack 20A 2500mAh 18650…accurately rated but 25R is better, paper top ring
While this cell is accurately rated it is not a great performer. But it is certainly an option if you need a 20A cell and no other better performing cells, like the Samsung 25R, are available.
The two I tested showed a bit of inconsistency in performance between them but it wasn’t bad.
These Radio Shack cells use a paper ring as the top insulator. Do not let eliquid, or any liquid, get on the top as it could weaken the ring and/or cause rusting underneath.
The two cells I tested delivered 2712mAh and 2713mAh at 500mA (0.2C) down to 2.5V. This is good performance for a cell rated at 2500mAh.
I am ESTIMATING this Radio Shack’s ratings to be 20A continuous (about 60W) and 2500mAh.
Two cells were purchased for the purposes of testing by me.
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/QSPJqe4
Test report: https://bit.ly/2pumvAr
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
To see how other cells have tested check out this link: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: iJoy 25A 1400mAh 20350…hugely overrated, paper top ring, must still rate at 7A
Two of these cells are included with the iJoy Avenger Baby mod and one is used inside the iJoy Diamond VPC kit mod.
A total of six cells were tested. Their performance varied wildly with the worst cell delivering about 1/3 the vaping time of the best cell at 10A (about 30W) down to the 3.3V cutoff used in the iJoy Avenger Baby mod.
This inconsistency is huge and is a big concern as it forces me to rate all of them at the performance level of the worst cell. You might get a decent performer or you could get one even worse than the ones I had.
One possible cause for this inconsistent performance could be the badly done internal spot welds in the cells I tested. Some of the welds burnt through the metal, resulting in a very poor connection and some spot welds missed the metal they were supposed to weld down.
I sent iJoy photos of some of these badly done welds and they informed me that they are speaking to the factory to revise/improve the spot welds and overall performance of these cells. I look forward to retesting them when these cells are released.
This iJoy cell uses a thin paper ring as the top insulator. Do not let eliquid, or any liquid, get on the top of the battery as it could weaken the ring and/or cause rusting underneath.
The six cells I tested averaged approximately 1440mAh at 280mA (0.2C) down to 2.5V.
I am ESTIMATING this iJoy’s ratings to be 7A continuous (about 20W) and 1400mAh. You could get lucky and end up with a better performer, up to about a 15A rating, but never assume you have one like that. I recommend staying below 20W per battery until the revised cells are available. This is 20W for the iJoy Diamond VPC mod and 40W for the iJoy Avenger Baby mod.
Two cells were donated for the purposes of testing by Mike Vapes (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt3WcCLs8Zm-zZNcqgixyMw), two were donated by Kimmy Vapes (https://www.youtube.com/user/luck4kim), and two were donated by Bob The Vaping Computer Guy (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr6745zQfrRa5GBcoT2cd_g). Thank you!
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/Odg9XDY
Test report: https://bit.ly/2wY7Q3V
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: iJoy 25A 1400mAh 20350…paper top ring, hugely overrated!
I was very excited by the release of this 20350 and was hoping it might be a 15A cell, perhaps even 20A. Alas, I was greatly disappointed by the test results.
I’ve only tested two cells so far but both were very poor performers with terrible cell-to-cell consistency. I am trying to find a way to get at least four more cells for testing. Until then I am giving them a Do Not Buy recommendation.
One cell performed at about a 7A rating and the other performed as a 10A cell. The better performing iJoy only equaled the performance of the Vapcell 10A 1200mAh 18350. The other iJoy was a lot worse than the Vapcell 18350.
Based on their inconsistent cell-to-cell performance I think these are China manufactured cells.
This iJoy cell uses a thin paper ring as the top insulator. Do not let any eliquid, or any liquid, get on it as it could weaken the ring and/or cause rusting underneath.
The two cells I tested delivered 1441mAh and 1446mAh at 280mA (0.2C) down to 2.5V.
Until I can get more cells in for testing I am ESTIMATING this iJoy’s ratings to be 7A continuous (about 20W) and 1400mAh. The ratings will be adjusted as necessary when more testing is done.
Two cells were donated for the purposes of testing by Mike Vapes (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt3WcCLs8Zm-zZNcqgixyMw).
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/trS23MR
Test report: https://bit.ly/2Lt4MBQ
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Golisi S32 30A 3200mAh 20700…it has changed, now only 25A
This cell has changed. It now runs hotter, by a few degrees-C, and at a slightly lower voltage than it did in my previous tests. This earns it a lower current rating. It appears to be the same cell as used by the 25A versions of the Vapcell gold 30A 3100mAh and QSO Orange 30A 3100mAh cell but I cannot be sure of this.
The two Golisi’s I tested delivered 3086mAh and 3117mAh at 640mA (0.2C) down to 2.5V.
I am ESTIMATING this Golisi’s ratings to be 25A continuous and 3000mAh.
Two cells were purchased for the purposes of testing by me.
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/So95EYB
Test report: https://bit.ly/2MIJi8O
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
To see how other cells have tested check out this link: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: QSO Orange 30A 3100mAh 20700…it has changed, now only 25A
This cell has been changed. It now runs hotter and at a slightly lower voltage than it did in my previous tests, by several degrees-C, earning it a lower current rating. It appears to be the same cell as used by the 25A version of the Vapcell gold 30A 3100mAh cell.
This QSO has the same top contact structure as the 25A version of that Vapcell but the metal can of the previous 30A version. The crimp at the top is a bit different than both though. I give up trying to understand all the variations coming out of whatever factory makes these. It is a 25A cell now.
The two QSO’s I tested delivered 3156mAh and 3170mAh at 620mA down to 2.5V.
I am ESTIMATING this QSO’s ratings to be 25A continuous and 3100mAh.
Two cells were purchased for the purposes of testing by me.
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/Xr10aW9
Test report: https://bit.ly/2OVTt7x
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
To see how other cells have tested check out this link: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: iJoy 40A 3000mAh 20700…third version of this battery, hugely overrated
This is the third version of this battery. The first had a five top “leg” top contact, the second had four legs, and this one has five legs but with a small “tab” at the bottom of each cutout in the top contact.
While these cells delivered roughly the same amount of energy as the original five leg version at moderate to high current levels (and much more than the four leg version) it did so at a MUCH higher temperature so it must be given a much lower current rating.
There was a decent difference in performance between the two cells I tested, much more than that typically seen between cells from Samsung, Sony, etc. This makes me think these iJoy cells are manufactured in China. But I don’t know for sure.
While the two cells I tested might be able to be given a continuous current rating between 20A and 25A I am sure they are not the hottest running cells from their batch. This forces me to rate this cell at 20A.
The two cells I tested delivered more mAh than their rating, 3188mAh and 3176mAh at 600mA down to 2.5V. Because this cell has already changed twice I am not giving it a capacity rating above the 3000mAh rating on the wrap.
I am ESTIMATING this iJoy’s ratings to be 20A continuous and 3000mAh.
Two cells were donated for the purposes of testing by Dash Vapes (http://www.dashvapes.com). Thank you!
Five cells were purchased for the purposes of testing by me.
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/uxFUXeB
Test report: https://bit.ly/2wdLACp
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Juiced 20A 3000mAh 18650…accurately rated (sort of), seems identical to Samsung 30Q
These cells look the same and perform essentially the same as the 15A 3000mAh Samsung 30Q. Samsung rates the 30Q at 15A continuous but the datasheet mentions operation at 20A. Never let these cells exceed 75°C if running them at 15A-20A. The Samsung 30Q is a great performing battery though.
The two cells I tested delivered 3108mAh and 3109mAh at 600mA down to 2.5V.
I had some questions regarding Juiced saying their cells were specifically developed for vaping. I have asked Juiced about this and am waiting for their response.
Juiced uses “IMNR HYBRID” on the wrap as, it seems, a battery chemistry designator but I have never seen that used before. The IMR and INR manufacturer model prefixes (they’re not chemistries) are common though. INR is already a prefix used for “hybrid” chemistry cells so using IMNR is a bit confusing in my opinion. But, each company is free to create any designator they want.
The Juiced web site says that this cell uses a “Lithium-Manganese, Nickel” chemistry. The Samsung 30Q uses NCA chemistry though, nickel-cobalt-aluminum. If this is not a 30Q then perhaps it is NMC chemistry, nickel-manganese-cobalt? That is a common chemistry used by vapers. It looks and performs the same as a 30Q though.
The Juiced web site mentions that they spent years researching and testing the best 18650’s, found this cell, and then improved it. I have requested info on what changes they have made. I have also requested the summaries of their previous testing as I am sure our community would love to know how different cells performed for Juiced. Any other test results we can get is great to have!
I am ESTIMATING this Juiced cell’s ratings to be 15A continuous, 20A temperature-limited to 75°C, and 3000mAh.
Five cells were purchased for the purposes of testing by me.
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/tqiGagQ
Test report: https://bit.ly/2BmdLVR
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: VRK 30A 3000mAh 20700…looks like other five-leg ones, hits harder but runs hotter
These cells appear identical to the other five-“leg” top contact cells being used by several companies. It runs hotter but performs a little better than the ones I have tested previously. I do not know if this is unique to the batch of cells VRK is using or if all the five-leg cells are now performing this way. Retesting of the others will be done but I do not know when.
These VRK cells have a paper top ring insulator that absorbs eliquid. This might weaken the ring and if the eliquid absorbs moisture then rust can form under the ring. If using this cell do not let eliquid get on the top of it.
This cell is a decent performer but runs too hot to be rated 30A in my opinion. It also showed a big difference between the two cells in the delivered Wh at high current levels.
The two cells I tested delivered 2959mAh and 3023mAh at 600mA down to 2.5V. It cannot be considered a 3000mAh cell.
I am ESTIMATING this VRK’s ratings to be 25A continuous and 2900mAh.
Two cells were purchased for the purposes of testing by me.
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/ZU9hpEg
Test report: https://bit.ly/2vQo8Me
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
To see how other cells have tested check out this link: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Vapcell Blue 35A 3000mAh 21700…looks like LG H30 but only 30A 2900mAh
These cells appear identical to the LG H30 samples I received earlier this year but they did not meet LG’s 3000mAh minimum capacity rating. The two cells I tested delivered 2946mAh and 2947mAh at 600mA (0.2C) down to 2.5V.
This cell is a decent performer but the Samsung 30T is a MUCH better choice at high current levels, delivering about 30% more energy down to 3.2V at 30A. The Samsung 40T will also outperform it at up to about 20A-25A.
I am ESTIMATING this Vapcell’s ratings to be 30A continuous and 2900mAh. LG lists a 35A “max” discharge rating for the H30 but I believe that to be a temperature limited rating. LG lists a max cell surface operating temperature of 75°C and the two cells I had reached 74°C and 75°C at 30A. The “fast discharge” rating in the datasheet is 30A.
Two cells were donated for the purposes of testing by 18650batterystore (http://www.18650batterystore.com). Thank you!
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/Czl1qgv
Test report: https://bit.ly/2nB36wt
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
To see how other cells have tested check out this link: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: QSO Black 35A 4000mAh 21700…slightly overrated, Sony VTC6A rewrap
This is an almost accurately rated rewrap of the 21700 size version of the Sony VTC6A. It appears identical to, and performed essentially identically to, the VTC6A’s I recently tested.
The QSO’s I tested have the tiny QR code square on the bottom, same as the VTC6A’s I tested.
The two cells I tested delivered 4117mAh and 4118mAh at 800mA (0.2C) down to 2.5V.
I do not have the datasheet for this cell. I am ESTIMATING this QSO’s ratings to be 30A continuous and 4000mAh rated/minimum, 4100mAh typical/nominal.
Two cells were donated for the purposes of testing by 18650batterystore (http://www.18650batterystore.com). Thank you!
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/JE4jjH2
Test report: https://bit.ly/2vzFNI4
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
To see how other cells have tested check out this link: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/