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A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Nitecore 7A 700mAh 18350…accurately rated, an average performer
This cell has accurate current and capacity ratings. It is an average performer, a bit better than the overrated AWT 10.5A 850mAh cell.
The performance of any 18350 really suffers at higher current levels due to their very high internal resistance, leading to huge voltage sag. I recommend staying under their continuous current rating. This results in much more efficient operation and much longer vaping time.
The two cells I tested delivered 719mAh and 736mAh at 0.2A down to 2.5V.
I am estimating this Nitecore’s ratings at 7A and 700mAh. Current ratings for high internal resistance cells like these are a combination of the temperature the cell runs at and how badly the voltage sags, i.e., its Wh specs.
This is the fourth in a group of seven 18350’s I am testing and I will be posting a shootout between all of them after the individual test reports are posted. The top three performers will then be identified.
Two cells were purchased for the purposes of testing by me.
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/TI5S7o9
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the estimated ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Blackcell 21.8A 2523mAh 18650…accurately rated but an average performer
Considering how overrated Blackcell’s 3100mAh cells were I am very happy to see them release an accurately rated cell with the true continuous discharge rating (CDR) marked on the wrap.
I do not like seeing a useless “Max” rating on the wrap though, especially when it’s above the CDR number. I hope Blackcell decides to remove it.
So while the Samsung 25R, and certainly any of the newer generation of cells from Sony and Samsung, are a better choice if available this cell is a good option in countries where genuine versions of those other cells are very hard to find, particularly in Asia.
The two cells I tested delivered 2526mAh and 2522mAh at 0.5A down to 2.5V.
I am estimating this Blackcell’s ratings at 21.8A and 2500mAh.
Two cells were donated for the purposes of testing by Blackcell (http://www.blackcelltech.com). Thank you!
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/JsrRIHD
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the estimated ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
To see how other cells have tested check out this link: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Samsung 25S 2500mAh 25A 18650…a great battery, best at under 20A
This is a great performing cell, beating any other 2500mAh-2600mAh 18650 available as of June 2018.
At 10A this cell is a better choice than the Samsung 20S and 24S. At about 20A-25A and higher though the 24S will run for a bit longer. The 20S will hit a bit harder than both the 24S and 25S but won’t run as long at lower current levels.
As of December 2017 Samsung gives this cell a TENTATIVE 25A continuous current rating and a 35A temperature limited rating if you don’t let the cell reach 80°C. As with any cell though, at high current levels it isn’t running efficiently and you will get a lot of voltage sag, power loss in the cell, and accelerated damage and aging of the cell.
I don’t know if the 25S cells available for purchase now are preproduction samples or full production cells. This means that this cell could still be tweaked by Samsung. I don’t know whether that will happen, what might change, or when it might happen…if at all. This will be an issue for EVERY new cell we have access to, particularly if it’s only occasionally available in small quantities as that could indicate they are preproduction samples.
The two cells I tested delivered 2521mAh and 2494mAh at 0.5A down to 2.5V.
I am estimating this Samsung’s ratings at 25A and 2500mAh, same as Samsung’s ratings.
Two cells were donated for the purposes of testing by Efest (http://www.efestpower.com). Thank you!
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/UoC5OQM
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the estimated ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: AWT 10.5A 850mAh Flat Top 18350…a below average 6A 700mAh battery
This cell has overrated current and capacity ratings. It performs below average, a bit worse than the Nitecore 7A 700mAh cell I tested earlier.
The performance of any 18350 really suffers at higher current levels due to their very high internal resistance, leading to huge voltage sag. I recommend staying under their continuous current rating. This results in much more efficient operation and much longer vaping time.
The two cells I tested delivered 732mAh and 743mAh at 0.2A down to 2.5V.
I am estimating this AWT’s ratings at 6A and 700mAh. Current ratings for high internal resistance cells like these are a combination of the temperature the cell runs at and how badly the voltage sags, i.e., its Wh specs.
This is the third in a group of seven 18350’s I am testing and I will be posting a shootout between all of them after the individual test reports are posted. The top three performers will then be identified.
Two cells were purchased for the purposes of testing by me.
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/O6c3ay8
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the estimated ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
FROM VTA – REGISTER TODAY, WHITE HOUSE/FDA, FLAVORS
IN THE TRENCHES
June 15, 2018
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NOT LETTING UP. VTA’S BOARD MEETS WITH WHITE HOUSE AND FDA AGAIN.
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On June 13, 2018, the VTA Board of Directors was out in full force for meetings in Washington, DC and Maryland. Specifically, VTA’s Board held its second meeting with the White House and its second meeting this year with FDA. Both meetings were productive especially because the VTA Board was able to demonstrate the leadership that it has been taking on the core issues confronting our industry and perplexing regulators – particularly in the red-hot area of marketing.
In addition, VTA again made the case for the creation of a new path for vapor products that would not relegate them to the trash heap of history through the antiquated PMTA process. In addition, the VTA Board again laid out the conundrum that the current set of undefined regulations are creating for the vapor industry.
Specifically, VTA discussed the various innovations in devices and e-liquids that the FDA’s current regulatory scheme is blocking and how the current regulation, which both bars and disincentivizes innovation, is directly undermining FDA’s primary mission of promoting safe products. We made it clear that, absent a dramatic change by FDA to accept newer, safer and innovative products into the U.S. market, it is merely a matter of time before another bad incident occurs.
The best part: Once again, VTA left both meetings with its homework, and already is working on responding to the Administration’s requests. Learn more about these meetings and the follow up at Vape & the FDA 3 on June 26.
SO-CAL FLAVOR MEETING
On June 5, 2018, VTA went on the road to Southern California to lay out its plan to save flavors. VTA Board Members Chris Howard (E-Alternative Solutions), Josh Church (Joyetech), and George Cassels-Smith (E-Liquitech), we’re joined by VTA regulatory counsel Eric Heyer, of Thompson Hine LLP, and put together a half a day presentation on the link between marketing and flavor regulations as well as the strategies we are implementing for responding to the flavor Advanced Notice of Proposed Rulemaking.
Mr. Heyer (pictured) laid out the legal and scientific arguments that VTA has been developing as part of the first-ever full scientific review that it is conducting for purposes of responding the ANPRM. He also engaged in a series of questions from the audience regarding the implications of those arguments, strategies to pursue, and what else we might expect from the scientific review.
In addition, Mr. Howard explained how VTA’s efforts to encourage the adoption of VTA’s Marketing Standards was essential to how FDA will continue to evaluate our industry and, in particular, to what extent FDA will feel compelled to restrict flavors.
The meeting, which was attended by many of the largest e-liquid brands in the United States and industry leaders, was incredibly engaging.
FLAVOR ANPRM DELAYED!
On the same day that the flavor ANPRM was published, March 21, VTA’s counsel submitted a request for an extension of time from FDA to respond to the flavor ANPRM. VTA member companies and member associations also made similar requests. Having heard nothing, VTA reminded Commissioner Gottlieb on June 5 via Twitter, that the requests were pending and necessary given that we were reviewing 300+ studies. Thanks for all the retweets and likes! A couple days later, June 7, the FDA granted the request and extended the deadline by an additional 30 days – until July 19, 2018.
That will give us even more time to prepare our response and, more importantly, launch our much-anticipated consumer campaign with CASAA. Stay tuned and get ready for launch!
Thanks for all you do to defend vapor and please let us know if you have any questions.
Tony Abboud
Executive Director
Vapor Technology Association
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Aspire Unrated 1100mAh Flat Top 18350…a good 9A battery
While not perfoming quite as well as the Vapcell 1100mAh in my testing this is a pretty good 18350. It delivers a bit less total energy, its Wh (watt-hour) spec, and runs a touch hotter than the Vapcell so I have given it a slightly lower current rating than the Vapcell.
Aspire does not list the ratings on the cell’s wrap but does include a paper insert that seems to indicate that they rate it at 10A. The insert also mentions a 15A “Vaping Simulation” rating using 10 second pulses spaced 5 seconds apart.
I really wish Aspire put the current rating on the cell as it is easy to lose the paper insert, leaving us with a cell with no rating. This can be a safety issue as well as a performance one.
The performance of any 18350 really suffers at high current levels like 15A due to their very high internal resistance, leading to huge voltage sag. I recommend staying under their continuous current rating. This results in much more efficient operation and much longer vaping time.
The two cells I tested delivered 1154mAh and 1166mAh at 0.2A down to 3.2V.
I am estimating this Aspire’s ratings at 9A and 1100mAh. Current ratings for high internal resistance cells like these are a combination of the temperature the cell runs at and how badly the voltage sags, i.e., its Wh specs.
This is the second in a group of seven 18350’s I am testing and I will be posting a shootout between all of them after the individual test reports are posted. The top three performers will then be identified.
Two cells were purchased for the purposes of testing by me.
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/mNy36QS
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the estimated ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
THE SIRIUS MODS SPICA PRO
A PBusardo Review – Sirius Mods Spica Pro
In this video we take a look at the Sirius Mods Spica Pro. I great quality MTL RTA with some unique features.
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*NOTE: Any use of these videos in part or in their entirety without Phil Busardo’s expressed written consent is strictly prohibited.
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June 3, 2018
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A BATTERY MOOCH POST: MXJO Yellow 10.5A 700mAh 18350…a below average 5A battery
While both of the cells I tested delivered a bit over their rated 700mAh of capacity they were poor performers with an exaggerated current rating. Their large voltage sag made them essentially unusable at 10A, as displayed by the huge drop in the Wh delivered between 5A and 10A.
I am estimating this cell’s ratings at 5A and 700mAh. Current ratings for high internal resistance batteries like these are a combination of the temperature the battery runs at and how badly the voltage sags, i.e., its Wh specs.
This is the first in a group of seven 18350’s I am testing and I will be posting a shootout between all of them after the individual test reports are posted. The top three performers will be identified.
Two cells were purchased for the purposes of testing by me.
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/1AJiweV
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the estimated ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
To see how other cells have tested check out this link: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/
NOW AVAILABLE – NEW ARES AND KROMA-A ZENITH KIT COLORS!
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Ares – Gun Metal, Rainbow and Gold colors. A couple of small changes, thicker insulator in top cap for better seal and tighter turning air flow ring.
Kroma-A/Zenith Kits – Red, Purple, and Blue colors. Still includes the 1.6 ohm coil head, but we’ve replaced the .8 ohm with the new Plexus/Mesh MTL coil at .5 Ohms.
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