A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Do not use the Samsung 26F (ICR18650-26F) battery above 5A or 20W!
I’m getting more and more reports of the Samsung ICR18650-26F being sold with high power mods like the Smok H-Priv 220W.
This is ridiculous.
That is a 5.2A-rated battery and it will perform very badly above about 5A/15W. If used in a high power device it could heat the batteries up enough to damage them or even cause them to vent (not thermal runaway though).
Do not use the Samsung 26F at above 5A or 15W per battery.
https://imgur.com/a/A3yqa
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: These tables are not “pulse” ratings for Sony VTC batteries!
They are maximum response time tables for the battery management/protection system for a battery pack that uses Sony VTC batteries. You can see this in the section heading, “Over current protective circuit”, and in the description for the tables.
https://imgur.com/a/zpqrO
These are one time, emergency use only, protection response times for different discharge overcurrent levels (covered in red). They cannot be used as pulse ratings or even maximum pulse capabilities for VTC batteries. They only ensure that the battery doesn’t explode or catch fire. The battery can still be damaged or vent.
An actual rating would tell you the rest time between pulses and the criteria used to set the pulse rating (voltage sag? max temperature? cycle life?).
Do not use these discharge current levels as any type of indicator as to how hard you can run Sony VTC batteries or what “pulse” ratings they might have.
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: iJoy 40A 4200mAh 26650 Bench Test Results…overrated but a great 30A battery!
Bottom Line: This iJoy cell’s 40A rating is exaggerated. This is incredibly frustrating because it’s the first 30A 26650 I’ve ever tested and no exaggeration was needed! Why the hell do companies like iJoy still think they need to do this to sell batteries?
This is the first 26650 I’ve tested that acts like an 18650. Its internal resistance is lower than many of the good 18650’s and it held its voltage well. At 30A/100W pulsed it ran approximately 75% longer, and 0.15V-0.20V higher, than the Basen and Brillipower 4500mAh cells down to 3.2V. It doesn’t match the appearance of any other 26650 I have so I don’t know where this cell came from.
The 26650 ratings table has been updated to include this cell.
Test results, discharge graph, photos: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/ijoy-40a-4200mah-26650-bench-test-results-overrated-but-a-great-30a-battery.764411/
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Can we, and should we, use salt water to discharge our batteries before recycling them?
LiPo battery users are sometimes advised to soak their battery packs in salt water before recycling. This is supposed to fully discharge them and make them safe. Should we do that with our cylindrical 18xxx and 26650 batteries?
No…no…no!
As you can see in the photos below, even just 5 gms (about 1 tsp) of salt in 250 ml (about 8 fl. oz.) of water quickly corroded the top contact away in an hour. The contact was badly damaged in just 30 minutes. During this hour of soaking the battery voltage only dropped from 4.16V to 4.08V.
https://imgur.com/a/vpIlF
The other picture shows the more faster and more extensive damage to the batteries when using more salt, up to a saturated solution.
Worse yet, once the venting disk that’s under the top contact is corroded away the contents of the battery are released into the water. This includes solvents and other toxic chemicals. The fumes are also toxic. This turns the water into hazardous waste that should not be poured down your drain!
I removed the batteries from the salt water after one hour and rinsed them thoroughly in fresh warm water to stop the reaction and placed them out to dry. But two of them became too hot to touch after a few minutes…they were still discharging internally! It took about 20 hours for them to drop to about 0.3V and reach room temperature. This could be dangerous if someone only partially discharged a battery using the salt water method.
You could leave the battery in the salt water for a couple of days, hoping it fully discharged, but measuring the voltage is difficult to do, the water becomes poisonous, and the smell is terrible.
While a case can be made to discharge LiPo battery packs before recycling to reduce the danger in case their fragile plastic “pouch” is penetrated, there’s just no need to discharge our cylindrical batteries. Their steel case protects them from physical abuse and we only need to add some tape to cover the top to prevent short-circuits. I strongly recommend this over trying to discharge them using salt water.
THE PHALANX DUNK TEST, PROGRESS AT THE NEW MOLECULE LABS FACILITY, THE ARYMI ARMOR KIT REVIEW & THE LAST CONTEST WINNER!
A PBusardo Review – The Arymi Armor Starter Kit
In this video we do the DNA “Dunk Test” on the Phalanx, see the progress at the new Molecule Labs facility, review the Arymi Armor Kit, talk about the required changes to the contests, and FINALLY announce the last contest winner!
The Links:
Vape Chalet
Molecule Labs
Arymi
My Vapor Store
Vape Chemist
The Video:
*NOTE: Any use of these videos in part or in their entirety without Phil Busardo’s expressed written consent is strictly prohibited.
The Photos:
THE URGENCY OF COLE BISHOP
Here’s Dimitris’ latest Smoke Free Radio Episode discussing the urgency Cole Bishop.
* My guests include Ashley Davis (Partner at West Front Strategies LLC) and Brittani Cushman (Vice President of External Affairs at Turning Point Brands, Inc.) as we discuss political strategy on moving the grand father date via the Cole/Bishop amendment.
* SEVIA USA Conference Update
* Forget unity, apply cooperation!
We also want to thank our newest sponsor “The Vaping Advocate” magazine for providing our live phone in line! 215-383-5752 for questions and comments!
A BILLION LIVES UPDATE
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SEVIA Held FDA Deeming Regulations Conference in Shenzhen
From the SEVIA-USA website:
On September 3rd, SEVIA (Shenzhen Electronic Vaporizer Industry Association) held a conference in Shenzhen, the heart of electronic cigarette industry, to discuss the FDA deeming regulations and the latest status of the lawsuit that SEVIA USA financially supported. Innokin, as the founder of SEVIA and SEVIA USA, was proactively engaged in organizing and participating in this historic event.
To see the entire article, please click HERE.
THE VIKA FANTASY TANK
A PBusardo Review – The Vika Fantasy Tank
In this video we review the Fantasy Tank by Vika.
The Links:
Vika Website
Vika Fantasy Tank – Purchase
Compatible Rebuildable Coil Head
The Video:
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The Photos:
SOME SHOW & TELL WITH THE PHALANX DNA-200 BY VAPE CHALET & THE JOYETECH ULTIMO REVIEW
A PBusardo Review -Show & Tell with the Phalanx by Vape Chalet & The Joyetech Ultimo Review
In this video we talk about an upcoming event, mention a change of thought in A Billion Lives, do a show & tell with the Phalanx by Vape Chalet and review the Joyetech Ultimo tank.
The Links:
Midwest Vapor Expo
A Billion Lives
Vape Chalet
Joyetech
The Video:
*NOTE: Any use of these videos in part or in their entirety without Phil Busardo’s expressed written consent is strictly prohibited.
The Photos – Joyetech Ultimo:
The Photos – Vape Chalet Phalanx:
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