A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Vapcell Gold 30A 3100mAh 20700…cell has changed, now only 25A 3000mAh!
This cell has changed. It now runs too hot to be rated at 30A and should be considered a 25A cell. Its appearance is only slightly different from the earlier cell and knowing which one you have will be tough. If you cannot tell, assume it’s rated 25A. I am not able to tell you which you have from photos you might send me.
The newer 25A-rated cells have a more sharply bent bottom edge and a sharper bend at the fold over of the metal can at the top. It also appears that the newer cell has the image of a hand fan on the wrap positioned further down from the top than before and that the white printing on the wrap isn’t as solid, as dense, as it was in the 30A-rated version. But wraps can change at any time and this should not be used as the only method of identifying which cell you have!
This Vapcell’s cell-to-cell performance varies much more than the cells from Samsung, Murata, LG, Panasonic/Sanyo, etc. This seems to be typical for the China manufactured cells being favored by a lot of battery wrapping companies now and will require a different way of rating them to account for this variation in performance. I’m working on it.
The sixteen cells I tested…yes, sixteen…delivered from 2.6Wh to 5.4Wh at 30A down to 2.5V. The earlier version of this cell averaged 5.5Wh at 30A. This is a huge range of values and means some would only last half as long as others in a regulated device at high power levels due to their extra voltage sag.
The cells I tested delivered 3052mAh to 3221mAh at 600mA (0.2C) down to 2.5V. That is also a huge range of values. While the “typical” capacity of this cell is over 3100mAh the minimum guaranteed capacity rating must be lower than the lowest capacity seen in testing. This way every cell is supposed to have at least that high a capacity.
I do not have the datasheet for this cell. I am ESTIMATING this Vapcell’s new rating to be 25A continuous and 3000mAh. I cannot guarantee that every cell in every batch will rated at least this high though. This is a big issue for our community and I am working on new rating standards for China-manufactured cells.
Six cells were donated for the purposes of testing by Economy Ecigs Distro, two cells were donated by Eciggity. Thank you! Eight were purchased by me from Illumn and Liion Wholesale. Vapcell also wanted to send four more cells for testing but I said no.
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/BYpJn0S
Test report: https://bit.ly/2M5NcZL
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
THE VAPEFLY GALAXIES MTL RDTA
A PBusardo Review – The Vapefly Galaxies MTL RDTA
In this video we take a look at the Vapefly Galaxies MTL RDTA. I think Vapefly did an outstanding job with this atomizer and it gives MTLers who want to squonk another viable option!
We also kick off a new “Not A” Contest!
BTW – Failed to mention in the video that the NotchCore coil can certainly be re-wicked with a new piece of cotton!!
The Links:
VapeFly
Vapefly Galaxies MTL RDTA @ Heaven Gifts
Joyetech
The Video:
*NOTE: Any use of these videos in part or in their entirety without Phil Busardo’s expressed written consent is strictly prohibited.
The Photos:
TINY – YET EFFECTIVE!
No, I’m not talking about Dimitris 🙂
The Innokin Platform Series Coolfire/Zenith 22mm combination is now available to order!
We paired the 22mm Zenith tank with the Coolfire Mini, increased the screen brightness and chose vibrant attractive colors to assemble a starter kit that is easy to use for smokers and small enough for advanced users to use as a stealth device or salt nic delivery! The kit comes complete with 2 coils, the new Plexus .5 Ohm and the 1.6 Ohm Z-Coils.
#SmokersWanted!
The Zenith 22mm will also be available as a stand-alone tank for your smaller tubes and boxes in both black and SS.
All are compatible with existing Z Coils (1.6, .8, and new Plexus .5).
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Vapcell Black 30A 4000mAh 21700 without QR code…3900mAh, Sony VTC6A rewrap
This is an almost accurately rated rewrap of the 21700 size version of the Sony VTC6A but it does not have the QR code on the bottom of the metal can. It performed a bit worse than the VTC6A (with the code) and Vapcell VTC6A rewrap (with the code) I recently tested. I don’t think anyone will notice the difference though as it is small.
Since the VTC6A samples I played with earlier this year did not have the QR code on the bottom perhaps there is still a mix of older and newer VTC6A cells in Vapcell’s inventory? This is just a guess though.
The Samsung 40T delivers a tiny bit more energy, Wh, at high current levels but the VTC6A runs a tiny bit cooler. Basically, they perform the same and are a fantastic choice for use at up to 20A-25A, in regulated or unregulated devices. At above 20A-25A the Samsung 30T is the better choice though due to its higher current rating and better efficiency (lower internal resistance).
The two cells I tested delivered 3944mAh and 3974mAh at 800mA (0.2C) down to 2.5V.
I do not have the datasheet for this cell or the Sony VTC6A. I am ESTIMATING this Vapcell’s ratings to be 30A continuous and 3900mAh.
Two cells were donated for the purposes of testing by Vapcell (http://www.vapcelltech.com). Thank you!
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/jVbP9wy
Test report: https://bit.ly/2Mxn3PC
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Vapcell Black 30A 4000mAh 21700 with bottom QR code…Sony VTC6A rewrap
This is an accurately rated rewrap of the 21700 size version of the Sony VTC6A. It performed essentially identically to the VTC6A I recently tested.
The Samsung 40T delivers a tiny bit more energy, Wh, at high current levels but the VTC6A runs a tiny bit cooler. Basically, they perform the same and are a fantastic choice for use at up to 20A-25A, in regulated or unregulated devices. At above 20A-25A the Samsung 30T is the better choice though due to its higher current rating and better efficiency (lower internal resistance).
The Vapcells I tested have a tiny QR code square on the bottom, same as the VTC6A’s I tested. There are versions of this Vapcell without the QR code though which I am testing now. If you have a VTC6A 21700, or one of its rewraps, that does not have this QR code it is probably just an earlier sample.
The two cells I tested delivered 4113mAh and 4141mAh at 800mA (0.2C) down to 2.5V.
I do not have the datasheet for this cell. I am TENTATIVELY ESTIMATING this Vapcell’s ratings to be 30A continuous and 4000mAh rated/minimum, 4100mAh typical/nominal.
Two cells were donated for the purposes of testing by 18650batterystore (http://www.18650batterystore.com). Thank you!
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/JyckiWB
Test report: https://bit.ly/2Ojx8R4
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
CHINA TRIP 2018!
A PBusardo Video – China Trip 2018!
In this video Dimitris and I take you back to China! We see product assembly, packaging, and clean room coil assembly at the Innokin facilities and have some fun along the way. We hope you enjoy it!!
The Links:
Past China Videos:
Video 1 – 2015 – Innokin
Video 2 – 2015 – Kanger
Video 3 – 2015 – Aspire
Video 4 – 2015 – Boomertech & The Clone Factory
Video 5 – 2016 – Joyetech
Video 6 – 2016 – Vaporesso
Video 7 – 2016 – Yongdeli Battery Factory
Video 8 – 2017 – SEVIA USA, Innokin, Smok Offices & Dan 🙂
The Video:
*NOTE: Any use of these videos in part or in their entirety without Phil Busardo’s expressed written consent is strictly prohibited.
The Photos:
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Sony VTC6A 21700…a great 30A battery, equal to Samsung 40T
This is the 21700 size version of the Sony VTC6A. It performed essentially identically to the Samsung 40T which was given an estimated rating of 25A/35A and 4000mAh by me.
The Samsung 40T delivered a tiny bit more energy, Wh, at high current levels but the 21700 VTC6A ran a tiny bit cooler. Basically, they perform the same and are a fantastic choice for use at up to 20A-25A, in regulated or unregulated devices. At above 20A-25A the Samsung 30T is the better choice though due to its higher current rating and better efficiency (lower internal resistance).
This cell now has a tiny QR code square on the bottom. Perhaps an anti-counterfeiting measure?
If you have a VTC6A 21700, or one of its rewraps, that does not have this QR code it is probably an earlier sample. I have not tested them and I do not know their true ratings.
The two cells I tested delivered 4107mAh and 4131mAh at 800mA (0.2C) down to 2.5V.
I do not have the datasheet for this cell. I am TENTATIVELY ESTIMATING this Sony’s ratings to be 30A continuous and 4000mAh rated/minimum, 4100mAh typical/nominal.
Two cells were donated for the purposes of testing by Vapcell (http://www.vapcelltech.com). Thank you!
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/xEtjHGx
Test report: https://bit.ly/2OM431x
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
THE INNOKIN EQ
A PBusardo Review – The Innokin EQ
In this video we take a look at the Innokin EQ. A satisfying little pod system for both salt AND standard nic!
We also find out who won the last contest & kick off a new one.
The Links:
Innokin
My Vapor Store
Vaporesso
The Video:
*NOTE: Any use of these videos in part or in their entirety without Phil Busardo’s expressed written consent is strictly prohibited.
The Photos:
MY NEXT EVENT – Vapexpro Athens 2018
Looking forward to returning to Dimitris’ home town, seeing so many of the friends I’ve made there and making new ones as we make our way to Vapexpro Athens 2018!
We’ll be hanging out at booth B10! Click the the banners for more information. Hope to see you there!! OPA!
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Murata VTC5 18650…performs the same as Sony VTC5
In September 2017, Murata Manufacturing Co., Ltd finalized the purchase of a lot of Sony’s battery operations, including the cells we use.
Murata branded VTC cells are starting to become available to us and this was a test of the Murata VTC5. I’m happy to say nothing has changed, the VTC5 is still a decent cell. It even has the twin “dimples” on top of the cell, just outside the top contact, that all 18650 Sony VTC cells had.
The two cells I tested delivered 2624mAh and 2647mAh at 520mAh (0.2C) down to 2.5V.
I do not have the Murata datasheet but Sony rated the VTC5 at 20A continuous with a temperature limited rating of 30A if the cell does not get hotter than 80°C. I do not know if Murata will continue to use the temperature limited rating though so I am not estimating it for this cell.
I am ESTIMATING this Murata’s ratings to be 20A continuous and 2600mAh.
Two cells were donated for the purposes of testing by IMRBatteries (http://www.imrbatteries.com). Thank you!
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/oTji8bI
Test report: https://bit.ly/2ODf0lT
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the estimated ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
To see how other cells have tested check out this link: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/
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