A BATTERY MOOCH POST: iJoy 25A 1400mAh 20350…hugely overrated, paper top ring, must still rate at 7A
Two of these cells are included with the iJoy Avenger Baby mod and one is used inside the iJoy Diamond VPC kit mod.
A total of six cells were tested. Their performance varied wildly with the worst cell delivering about 1/3 the vaping time of the best cell at 10A (about 30W) down to the 3.3V cutoff used in the iJoy Avenger Baby mod.
This inconsistency is huge and is a big concern as it forces me to rate all of them at the performance level of the worst cell. You might get a decent performer or you could get one even worse than the ones I had.
One possible cause for this inconsistent performance could be the badly done internal spot welds in the cells I tested. Some of the welds burnt through the metal, resulting in a very poor connection and some spot welds missed the metal they were supposed to weld down.
I sent iJoy photos of some of these badly done welds and they informed me that they are speaking to the factory to revise/improve the spot welds and overall performance of these cells. I look forward to retesting them when these cells are released.
This iJoy cell uses a thin paper ring as the top insulator. Do not let eliquid, or any liquid, get on the top of the battery as it could weaken the ring and/or cause rusting underneath.
The six cells I tested averaged approximately 1440mAh at 280mA (0.2C) down to 2.5V.
I am ESTIMATING this iJoy’s ratings to be 7A continuous (about 20W) and 1400mAh. You could get lucky and end up with a better performer, up to about a 15A rating, but never assume you have one like that. I recommend staying below 20W per battery until the revised cells are available. This is 20W for the iJoy Diamond VPC mod and 40W for the iJoy Avenger Baby mod.
Two cells were donated for the purposes of testing by Mike Vapes (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt3WcCLs8Zm-zZNcqgixyMw), two were donated by Kimmy Vapes (https://www.youtube.com/user/luck4kim), and two were donated by Bob The Vaping Computer Guy (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr6745zQfrRa5GBcoT2cd_g). Thank you!
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/Odg9XDY
Test report: https://bit.ly/2wY7Q3V
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These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
THE ASPIRE NAUTILUS AIO
A PBusardo Review – Aspire Nautilus AIO + Contest Winner & New One!
Bunch of stuff going on in this video.
First some housekeeping as I discuss the upcoming Greece event and take you to the Naples Vapor for a bit.
Next, we get to the review and take a look at the Aspire Nautilus AIO.
Finally we find out who won the last “Not A” Contest and kick off a new one!
The Post Review Follow-up:
- 9/5/18 – Failed to mention in the video that the device is regulated to 12W.
The Links:
Naples Vapor Facebook
Aspire
Nautilus AIO @ Heaven Gifts
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Joyetech
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THE SMOKER’S SHOW – EPISODE # 14
The Smoker’s Show Episode #14
In this episode, we…
- Welcome our new sponsor… Naked 100 E-Liquid!
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Thank you all for your support and let’s convert more smokers together!
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GREECE VAPE BROMANCE TOUR!!
The VAPE BROMANCE lands and tours in Greece the 10th-15th of September!
I’m not exactly sure what’s going on because there are a lot of alien characters on this flyer, but I’m pretty sure I’m a part of it since I see my name and my photo! 🙂
Looking forward to seeing everyone and returning to GREECE!!! OPA!!
NEW FROM REGULATOR WATCH – Mortal Threat | Public Health NGO’s Legal Bid to Shutter Vaping
Here’s the latest from Brent Stafford at Regulator Watch:
It’s the only reason why the U.S. vaping industry is alive and growing today: FDA’s extension of compliance deadlines—related to the Final Deeming Rule—to 2022. It’s allowed the vaping industry to stay open. And without it, nearly every single vapor device and e-juice would be off-the-market.
But, the extension is not permanent and may be vulnerable to legal challenge. A coalition of public health NGO’s is currently seeking the federal district court of Maryland to vacate the August 2017 Guidance Document, which issued the extension. If they win, it will be lights out for vaping.
In this episode of RegWatch, top vaping lawyer Azim Chowdhury walks through the arguments made against vaping, the industry’s robust response and how FDA winds up being a surprising ally, as it protects its authority to issue Guidance and extend deadlines.
Only on RegWatch by RegulatorWatch.com.
Produced by: Brent Stafford
Released: August 26, 2018DOWNLOAD:
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: iJoy 25A 1400mAh 20350…paper top ring, hugely overrated!
I was very excited by the release of this 20350 and was hoping it might be a 15A cell, perhaps even 20A. Alas, I was greatly disappointed by the test results.
I’ve only tested two cells so far but both were very poor performers with terrible cell-to-cell consistency. I am trying to find a way to get at least four more cells for testing. Until then I am giving them a Do Not Buy recommendation.
One cell performed at about a 7A rating and the other performed as a 10A cell. The better performing iJoy only equaled the performance of the Vapcell 10A 1200mAh 18350. The other iJoy was a lot worse than the Vapcell 18350.
Based on their inconsistent cell-to-cell performance I think these are China manufactured cells.
This iJoy cell uses a thin paper ring as the top insulator. Do not let any eliquid, or any liquid, get on it as it could weaken the ring and/or cause rusting underneath.
The two cells I tested delivered 1441mAh and 1446mAh at 280mA (0.2C) down to 2.5V.
Until I can get more cells in for testing I am ESTIMATING this iJoy’s ratings to be 7A continuous (about 20W) and 1400mAh. The ratings will be adjusted as necessary when more testing is done.
Two cells were donated for the purposes of testing by Mike Vapes (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt3WcCLs8Zm-zZNcqgixyMw).
Ratings graphic: https://imgur.com/a/trS23MR
Test report: https://bit.ly/2Lt4MBQ
I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch
These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.
ARE WE BEING FORCED TO LIE TO CONSUMERS… AGAIN?
So we already know that not being permitted to advertise vaping as far safer than smoking by the FDA is forcing the industry to lie to consumers.
Are we being forced to do that again with this warning label?
I ask because I found some interesting information on-line…
Pure nicotine
Nicotine isn’t dependence-forming at all, outside of tobacco use. It has been found clinically impossible to show any dependence potential for pure nicotine.None of the many clinical trials in which large quantities of pure nicotine were administered daily to never-smokers – the equivalent amount to that contained in up to 18 cigarettes, for up to 6 months – ever found any subject who showed any sign of dependence.
The leading researcher in this field, Dr Newhouse, whose day job is administering large amounts of pure nicotine to never-consumers of tobacco, says: “The dependence potential of pure nicotine is virtually nil”.
Because pure nicotine is not dependence-forming, it cannot be addictive either. In modern use, dependence means a compulsion that may be harmless or close to it, and addiction is compulsion plus clear and inarguable harm.
I found the article HERE.
Perhaps this too should be a warning? Hmmm…
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