This Lithicore cell appears identical to, and performs identically to, the 15A 3000mAh Samsung 30Q

I recently posted about a large number of concerns I have about Lithicore and their cells (same post to all three sites):

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/batterymooch/posts/2406399516316287

• ECR (Reddit): https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/cf6k3f/i_have_some_concerns_about_lithicore_batteries/

• ECF Forum: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/threads/i-have-some-concerns-about-lithicore-batteries-and-all-six-will-receive-a-do-not-buy-recommendation.914811/

While I am happy to report that only a slightly exaggerated continuous discharge rating is on the wrap of this cell their web site (as of this date) lists a completely useless “Max pulse” rating of 35A.

Lithicore claims that they manufacture this cell in their factory using much of the same parts and battery “chemistry” as Samsung (I address this in my post that I link to above). But if it is a copy of the Samsung 30Q then why pay more than double the price of a 30Q for the Lithicore?

Using the same battery chemistry as the Samsung 30Q would mean this cell does not use the same chemistry as a LiPo. But Lithicore claims in their Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS)*** that all six of their cells use the same battery chemistry as LiPo’s. That does not mean they are all dangerous! If it was true though it would mean that if they are misused or mishandled that they can go into thermal runaway, and possibly burst, at a lower temperature and that their reactions during runaway are more violent than the other Li-Ion battery chemistries we can use.

A big reason why MSDS’ exist in the first place is to inform employees and first-responders of the risks involved if they need to handle a spill or fire involving a product. An incorrect MSDS makes responding properly harder to do.

Lithicore’s MSDS’ list identical chemical compositions for all six of their cells, down to 1/100th of a percent. Even if all of them were actually made by the same factory, using the same chemistry, in my opinion they could not have the same percentages of chemicals, metals, plastics, etc., across four different sizes, six different capacity ratings, and multiple current ratings. Different capacity cells use different ratios of the chemicals. Cells with different current ratings use different thicknesses of metal foil to spread the cell goop on and different thickness and quantities of the metal tabs to conduct the current to and from the top and bottom contacts inside the cells.

If the MSDS is incorrect that would mean that any vendor importing Lithicore cells into their country, like in the EU, would be submitting an incorrect document to the authorities. This means the wrong substances are being registered and could affect whether that vendor can sell the Lithicore cells they bought if the MSDS error is found. I suspect the vendors would be pretty unhappy to hear about that.

If you believe the MSDS safety documents are accurate then Lithicore is using the same chemistry as LiPo’s. If these Lithicore cells are actually using the same chemistry as Samsung 30Q’s, or if they are rewrapped Samsung cells, then non-LiPo chemistries are being used and the MSDS is wrong. No matter which it actually is, this earns this Lithicore cell a Do Not Buy recommendation from me. Filing incorrect safety documents would be unacceptable and with all of the other cells we can buy, why would we buy ones that use the same chemistry as LiPo‘s?

Four cells were donated for the purposes of testing.

Ratings graphic and MSDS: https://imgur.com/a/NJ9irpB

Test report: https://bit.ly/2Gmjlrf

I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch

These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, Murata, LG, Panasonic, Molicel, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.

Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.

Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.

To see how other cells have tested check out this link: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/

This Lithicore cell appears identical to, and performs identically to, the 20A 2500mAh LG HE2/4. Those LG cells are average performers, using older battery tech, that are outperformed by a lot of other cells we can buy. Even the Samsung 25R. Other better performers in the same capacity range are the Sony VTC5/VTC5A/VTC5D, Samsung 24S/25S, and Molicel P26A/P28A.

I recently posted about a large number of concerns I have about Lithicore and their cells (same post to all three sites):

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/batterymooch/posts/2406399516316287

• ECR (Reddit): https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/cf6k3f/i_have_some_concerns_about_lithicore_batteries/

• ECF Forum: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/threads/i-have-some-concerns-about-lithicore-batteries-and-all-six-will-receive-a-do-not-buy-recommendation.914811/

While I am happy to report that only a continuous discharge rating is on the wrap of this cell their web site (as of this date) lists a useless “Max pulse” rating of 35A.

Lithicore claims that they manufacture this cell in their factory using the same parts and battery “chemistry” as LG (I address this in my post that I link to above). If Lithicore manufactured this cell though then why pick a cell like the LG HE2/HE4 to copy? Why not a higher performance cell, especially when this Lithicore sells for over twice as much as the LG HE4 that Lithicore says they copied?

Using the same battery chemistry as the LG HE4 would mean this cell does not use the same chemistry as a LiPo. But Lithicore claims in their Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS)*** that all six of their cells use the same battery chemistry as LiPo’s. That does not mean they are all dangerous! If it was true though it would mean that if they are misused or mishandled that they can go into thermal runaway, and possibly burst, at a lower temperature and that their reactions during runaway are more violent than the other Li-Ion battery chemistries we can use.

A big reason why MSDS’ exist in the first place is to inform employees and first-responders of the risks involved if they need to handle a spill or fire involving a product. An incorrect MSDS makes responding properly harder to do.

Lithicore’s MSDS’ list identical chemical compositions for all six of their cells, down to 1/100th of a percent. Even if all of them were actually made by the same factory, using the same chemistry, in my opinion they could not have the same percentages of chemicals, metals, plastics, etc., across four different sizes, six different capacity ratings, and multiple current ratings. Different capacity cells use different ratios of the chemicals. Cells with different current ratings use different thicknesses of metal foil to spread the cell goop on and different thickness and quantities of the metal tabs to conduct the current to and from the top and bottom contacts inside the cells.

If the MSDS is incorrect that would mean that any vendor importing Lithicore cells into their country, like in the EU, would be submitting an incorrect document to the authorities. This means the wrong substances are being registered and could affect whether that vendor can sell the Lithicore cells they bought if the MSDS error is found. I suspect the vendors would be pretty unhappy to hear about that.

If you believe the MSDS safety documents are accurate then Lithicore is using the same chemistry as LiPo’s. If these Lithicore cells are actually using the same chemistry as LG HE2/4’s, or if they are rewrapped LG cells, then non-LiPo chemistries are being used and the MSDS is wrong. No matter which it actually is, this earns this Lithicore cell a Do Not Buy recommendation from me. Filing incorrect safety documents would be unacceptable and with all of the other cells we can buy, why would we buy ones that use the same chemistry as LiPo‘s?

Four cells were donated for the purposes of testing.

Ratings graphic and MSDS: https://imgur.com/a/VEo3PBc

Test report: https://bit.ly/2JGuQM3

I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch

These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, Murata, LG, Panasonic, Molicel, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.

Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.

Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.

To see how other cells have tested check out this link: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/

Hi Phil,
I quit smoking five months ago. I watched a lot of your videos and the smokers show. You really helped me get into vaping. I own three tanks the original nautilus,the Kanger top tank with the rba and the Ares. The Ares was great for a new builder. I love vaping! Thanks for everything you do.

Sincerely, Eric

In April of 2001 (a month before my 19th birthday) I enlisted into the US Air Force and because I was at that time a smoker of close to 3 years I was concerned with my physical fitness test. Even with my concern I still couldn’t give up my smokes and even briefly considered the military might not be the right call for me. as you can guess, when 9/11 came along it blew any reservations I had out of my mind. I shortly found out my “Ship Out” date was December 4th 2001 and even though I had a brand new relationship and a baby boy due in the middle of the month I knew leaving was the right thing. On the 4th I still had my cigarette habit and the very last thing I did before entering the airport to head to San Antonio Texas was smoke 2 cigarettes back to back and tossed the half pack I had left.

Once in Texas we were all put on a bus and sent to Lackland AFB. As you could guess, basic training was stressful as it was, but there were added stressors in the post 9/11 world. Because of everything as a whole, I had no real time to worry about how much I missed smoking, but it did pop up quickly from time to time, mostly at night. Given the fact there was no option to get my cigarette fix and the weeks in basic training, my physical fitness tests were easier and easier to accomplish and my mind and body were starting to show the results, but the desire to smoke was still there. One day after hitting my morning shower and shave I noticed some bleeding after handling business in the head. After notifying my instructor, I was sent to the clinic for an exam in which multiple tests confirmed the presence of blood and I was rushed to the base hospital. After 4 days of extensive procedures I’m notified I have a genetic condition called Gardner’s Syndrome which causes the formation of many precancerous growths called polyps in the intestines. Any polyps that aren’t removed have a 100% chance of turning cancerous and at the point of my diagnosis I had hundreds of them which meant I had no option other than removal of my large bowel. Ironically enough, my cancer risk was even more certain than with the cigarettes I still craved so that was just another reason I told myself I didn’t need to quit. To quicken the epic saga that ensued, I’ll hit the important bits next. 6 months and 5 surgeries later I was medically discharged from the military and my smoking habit was back like I never had to quit, if not worse.

Fast forward to 2011, the year my life as a smoker changed! In the months leading up to 2011 I had started seeing ads for vaping products randomly while surfing the net. At first it was easy to dismiss as just another scam to try and get people’s money. Slowly my curiosity got the better of me and I tried searching for more info about electronic cigarettes and soon ran across an ad from a company called Knight Sticks that had a “Try before you buy” deal. After blowing through the 808 cig-a-like cartridges I still wasn’t convinced. Soon I saw another ad from South Beach Smoke and ordered their 510 kit. While I used the kit 510 kit I didn’t believe the product was working as advertised, that was until I had exhausted the cartridges and realized I hadn’t touched my cigarette pack since the kit came in. My commitment into vaping didn’t fully start until May 1st 2011 when I bought my first real device intentionally to kick the habit from Pure Smoker and from that eGo-T kit until now I’ve never looked back. Even if my genetic condition results in me developing Cancer sometime in my life I can rest easy knowing THAT was the reason and not a dirty lifelong smoking habit. As crazy as it sounds, the unsure and varying quality of both devices and eliquids in those days is likely the main thing that kept me interested in vaping. These days doing my best to help others potentially save their lives is my biggest motivation.

Beginning in early 2015 I attempted to help my mother in law switch to vaping. I thought with all the knowledge I had gained since I started vaping I could help her with any questions or concerns she might have. After some time figuring out what type of device and eliquid best suited her I finally had her dialed in. Shortly before trying to help my mother in law switch her dry cough that she had from the time I first met her had gotten to the point where they were more and more frequent. Not too much after my wife and I noticed the increase and severity of her mom’s coughing, she began having slight pains in her stomach which over the span of a few months also became severe. Eventually the pain was bad enough that my wife took her to the hospital where she was admitted pretty quickly. Within a few days my mother in law’s doctors came in and said there were things going on internally and had to send samples in and were releasing her to go home till rests came in. A few days later the doctors called and wanted her to come into their office. My wife went along with her mom and was told she had stage 4 Cancer and it was in her lungs, kidney, and a large malignant mass in her colon. That Fall of 2015 mom started chemo and moved in with us since she couldn’t live on her own anymore. As things went along it seemed like the mass has stopped growing, but you could see mom was feeling worse and worse. Soon the best care we could give wasn’t enough and she was forced to be placed in a nursing home for round the clock care. By June 2016 mom had to be taken across the street to the hospital due to bleeding episodes and we learned chemo wasn’t halting the cancer’s progression and she was placed on hospice. By this time mom decided that there wasn’t any reason to not smoke anymore and if she was going to go she’ll go happy. In August somehow I convinced mom to take a selfie with me (she hated having her picture taken more than I do) and it was one of the best pictures her and I had taken together. Not a week later the nursing home called my wife and told her mom wasn’t responding normally to the staff so we both drove down there. Seeing she didn’t respond to either of us we went to pick up our kids as well as our nephew, my brother in law, and my wife called her dad to come see mom for likely one of the last times. my brother in law stayed the night with mom and that following morning called to say mom had passed away. The thing that affected me most in the whole situation with mom was all the symptoms and pain in her belly and cancer progression is exactly the same that I would face if my polyps turned cancerous. Same exact scenario, separate causes, but in some way it kind of connected mom and I together.

In the end Cancer is a brutal and scary thing that has no feelings and offers nothing but pain and death. Any and all means of trying to prevent others from dealing with the heartache should be given a chance and vaping should easily be an option supported by public health organizations and governing bodies. I hope this can help someone somewhere if not just show so many others have walked the twisted road that is Cancer.

This overrated QSO appears identical to and performs identically to the Samsung 35E, which a 8A, 3350mAh (minimum) cell.

The boldly printed 30A “max current” rating is useless and can be ignored. The 35E has a “non-continuous” rating of 13A in the Samsung datasheet. Running this cell at 30A increases your risks and results in HUGE amounts of voltage sag. The battery will not run for long at that level, about 87W for a one-battery regulated mod.

QSO told me on July 17th, 2019 that they rewrap Samsung and LG cells. That is no problem at all. But one of the documents I requested from QSO, the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) that lists the chemical composition of the cells and any hazards with those chemicals, says that this cell uses the same “chemistry” as LiPo’s.

QSO says that the testing lab sent them an incorrect MSDS…in February 2018. That is a big problem. No one at QSO noticed anything for almost 1-1/2 years, until I pointed out that the MSDS says they are LiPo’s? QSO is responsible for creating accurate safety documents for their products. Whatever happened, or whatever is going on, this is unacceptable. QSO is still ignoring my requests for the datasheets and they do not have UN38.3 safety test reports either. These safety reports are especially important as they are the most basic of tests to show that the cells can undergo some abuse without venting or bursting. They are required in order to ship Li-Ion cells by certain methods.

If these were LiPo’s that does not mean they are dangerous! If they did use LiPo battery chemistry though it would mean that if they are misused or mishandled they can go into thermal runaway, and possibly burst, at a lower temperature and that their reactions during runaway are more violent than the other Li-Ion chemistries we can use.

The wraps for these cells say “LI-MN” which I am pretty sure QSO wants us to think is lithium-manganese. This is consistent with the chemistry for some non-LiPo cells we use.

So what’s the big deal about having an accurate MSDS? They exist to inform employees and first-responders of the risks involved if they need to handle a spill or fire involving a product. If the MSDS is wrong that would make responding properly harder to do.

An incorrect MSDS would also mean that any vendor importing those cells into their country, like in the EU, would be submitting documents with the wrong info to the authorities. This means the wrong substances are being registered and could affect whether that vendor can sell those cells if the MSDS issues are discovered. I suspect that would be less than good news to the vendors.

If the MSDS is not accurate then QSO needs to fully explain what really happened and correct the MSDS. They also need to get their cells UN38.3 tested. Until this happens this QSO cell gets a Do Not Buy recommendation from me.

Two cells were purchased for the purposes of testing by me.

Ratings graphic and MSDS: https://imgur.com/a/XkmWR3U

Test report: https://bit.ly/2GhTSPv

I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch

These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, Murata, LG, Panasonic, Molicel, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.

Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.

Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.

To see how other cells have tested check out this link: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/

This QSO appears identical to, and performs identically to, the LG MH1 which a 10A, 3200mAh (nominal) cell.

The boldly printed 30A “max current” rating is useless and can be ignored. Running a 10A cell at 30A increases your risks and results in HUGE amounts of voltage sag. The battery will not run for long at that level, about 87W for a one-battery regulated mod.

QSO told me on July 17th, 2019 that they rewrap Samsung and LG cells. That is no problem at all. But one of the documents I requested from QSO, the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) that lists the chemical composition of the cells and any hazards with those chemicals, says that this cell uses the same “chemistry” as LiPo’s.

QSO says that the testing lab sent them an incorrect MSDS…in February 2018. That is a big problem. No one at QSO noticed anything for almost 1-1/2 years, until I pointed out that the MSDS says they are LiPo’s? QSO is responsible for creating accurate safety documents for their products. Whatever happened, or whatever is going on, this is unacceptable. QSO is still ignoring my requests for the datasheets and they do not have UN38.3 safety test reports either. These safety reports are especially important as they are the most basic of tests to show that the cells can undergo some abuse without venting or bursting. They are required in order to ship Li-Ion cells by certain methods.

If these were LiPo’s that does not mean they are dangerous! If they did use LiPo battery chemistry though it would mean that if they are misused or mishandled they can go into thermal runaway, and possibly burst, at a lower temperature and that their reactions during runaway are more violent than the other Li-Ion chemistries we can use.

The wraps for these cells say “LI-MN” which I am pretty sure QSO wants us to think is lithium-manganese. This is consistent with the chemistry for some non-LiPo cells we use.

So what’s the big deal about having an accurate MSDS? They exist to inform employees and first-responders of the risks involved if they need to handle a spill or fire involving a product. If the MSDS is wrong that would make responding properly harder to do.

An incorrect MSDS would also mean that any vendor importing those cells into their country, like in the EU, would be submitting documents with the wrong info to the authorities. This means the wrong substances are being registered and could affect whether that vendor can sell those cells if the MSDS issues are discovered. I suspect that would be less than good news to the vendors.

If the MSDS is not accurate then QSO needs to fully explain what really happened and correct the MSDS. They also need to get their cells UN38.3 tested. Until this happens this QSO cell gets a Do Not Buy recommendation from me.

Two cells were purchased for the purposes of testing by me.

Ratings graphic and MSDS: https://imgur.com/a/KkIl9wH

Test report: https://bit.ly/2LZcbwG

I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch

These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, Murata, LG, Panasonic, Molicel, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.

Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition

Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.

To see how other cells have tested check out this link: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/

Just wanted to thank you and Dimitri for the Zlide tank. I was using a nautilus before and it no longer worked with the new mods. I’m 59 and been smoking since I was 21, and MTL tanks have been keeping me off cigs.

Although I have little hope that petitions such as this will have any affect whatsoever, I saw this on my Facebook page and have decided to re-post it here.

Please take a moment and complete this simple petition.

Thank you!

You can sign the petition HERE.

Bottom Line: This overrated QSO appears identical to, and performs identically to, the Samsung 25R which a 20A-rated 2500mAh cell.

But one of the documents I requested from QSO, the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS), says that this cell uses the same “chemistry” as LiPo’s. That does not mean they are dangerous! If they do use this chemistry though it would mean that if they are misused or mishandled they can go into thermal runaway, and possibly burst, at a lower temperature and that their reactions during runaway are more violent than the other Li-Ion chemistries we can use.

I was very surprised to see QSO list the same chemistry as used by LiPo’s in their MSDS since that chemistry, lithium-cobalt oxide (LCO), is rarely used anymore in round cells. I am told by those who know a lot more about the battery industry than I do that the price of cobalt is just too high to justify its use for low cost round cells like the ones we use. Well, they’re low cost when manufactured. The markups in price before they get to us are huge.

The wraps for these cells say “LI-MN” which I am pretty sure QSO wants us to think is lithium-manganese. This is consistent with the chemistry for some non-LiPo cells we use but is in direct conflict with QSO’s claim that these are LiPo’s in their MSDS. There is no manganese in a LiPo cell.

So what’s the big deal about having an accurate MSDS? They exist to inform employees and first-responders of the risks involved if they need to handle a spill or fire involving a product. If the MSDS is wrong that would make responding properly harder to do.

An incorrect MSDS would also mean that any vendor importing those cells into their country, like in the EU, would be submitting documents with the wrong info to the authorities. This means the wrong substances are being registered and could affect whether that vendor can sell those cells if the MSDS issues are discovered. I suspect that would be less than good news to the vendors.

If you believe the MSDS is accurate then QSO is using the same chemistry as LiPo’s for these cells. With all of the other cells we can buy though why would we buy ones that use the same chemistry as LiPo‘s (with its increased volatility)? If the MSDS is not accurate, and these cells are rewraps, then QSO needs to explain why this safety document says they are LiPo’s. Either way, this earns this QSO cell a Do Not Buy recommendation from me.

Two cells were purchased for the purposes of testing by me.

Ratings graphic and MSDS: https://imgur.com/a/ekMReeb

Test report: https://bit.ly/30AoLq5

I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: https://www.patreon.com/batterymooch

These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, Murata, LG, Panasonic, Molicel, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.

Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.

Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.

To see how other cells have tested check out this link: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/

Hi Phil,

I just want to congratulate you on your 10 year vape anniversary. That’s huge.

I am looking forward to mine November 14th 2020.

The first mod if you want to call it that was a stick mod i think it was 3.7 volts. No variable volt. It was kind of hard to quit with that because I could not get enough nicotine not enough power. I remember when the twist came out I was thrilled. I could vape up to 6 volts which was a huge help. But I stuck with that stick mod until something more powerful came out. I feel so much better.

I have had chronic bronchitis all my life. Since I started vaping I might get one attack a year instead of two or 3 which is huge. But back to you.

Thanks for being there for me and everyone that you have helped over the years. You have no idea how much I appreciate your help. I am getting ready to order my Zlide and hope to use it on my Innokin Cool Fire IVs. I have 6 of them. I get just what I want out of it and I will use a 1.6 coil i think. I plan on buying 2 Zlides a month until I get 6. I love the look of it and have watched your video several times.

Thanks again Phil.
Sincerely, Susan