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A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Nitecore 38A 2100mAh 18650 Bench Test Results…useless 38A rating, only 23A
This Nitecore is a 23A rewrapped cell with a useless pulse rating (see the Comments section).
While this cell has a 20A continuous rating in micro print on the wrap it has a useless 38A “max pulse discharge” rating on the wrap too. It also features “38A” in a huge font which many people will use as the cell’s rating when shopping or when a vendor displays it on their web site. For these reasons I feel the large “38A” rating, or any “pulse” or “max” rating, is misleading and shouldn’t be used.
The wrap is not the standard heat shrink plastic. It is self-adhesive and appears to be similar to Mylar. I do not know how durable it is compared to the wraps being used now by other companies.
This cell says “IMR18650” on the wrap but it does not use IMR chemistry. It uses one of the INR chemistries.
I am rating this Nitecore at 23A and 2100mAh. The ones I tested were rewrapped Sony VTC4’s. Their performance was close to, but a bit worse than, the VTC4’s I have here.
The two cells that were tested were purchased by me from IMRBatteries.
Test results, discharge graph, photos: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/nitecore-38a-2100mah-18650-bench-test-results-useless-38a-rating-only-23a.802981/
All my test results to date: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/
THE HALL OF VAPE – STUTTGART GERMANY – 2017
A PBusardo Video – The Hall Of Vape – Stuttgart Germany 2017
In this video we visit the Hall Of Vape in Stuttgart Germany! You’ll find product, interviews, and ball busting throughout. Hope you enjoy it!
Vape Happy My Friends!!
The Links:
The Hall Of Vape Website
Smokerstore
JaceLiquids – Vapor Giant US Distributor
Puff Cigarette
ESmokeGuru
Steam Tuners
MM Vapors
GPROV Mods
GPROV Facebook
VapinArt
Hussar Vapes Facebook
Amber Mods Facebook
Pipeline
JWell
GG Golden Greek (Imeo)
Todd Ecig Reviews – YouTube
The Video:
*NOTE: Any use of these videos in part or in their entirety without Phil Busardo’s expressed written consent is strictly prohibited.
The Photos:
FROM CASAA – NY – Help stop senate bills that raise the age to vape and…
…ban vaping indoors!
NEW YORK ALERT
TOBACCO 21 AND INDOOR VAPING BAN
Multiple bills in New York are moving through both houses of the legislature that would ban vaping indoors and raise the age to purchase tobacco and vapor products to 21.
In the past, the NY Senate has shown more understanding and flexibility with laws affecting vaping. That being the case, we are asking members to take this opportunity to contact your state senators and urge them to oppose these misguided proposals.
Take Action – Send a Message!
Thank you,
CASAA Legislative Team
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NY – S. 3978: Tobacco 21
NY – S. 2543: Indoor Vaping Ban
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Nitecore 30A 2100mAh 18650 Bench Test Results…useless 30A rating, only 22A
This Nitecore is a 22A rewrapped cell with a useless pulse rating (see the Comments section).
While this cell has a 20A continuous rating in micro print on the wrap it has a useless 30A “max pulse discharge” rating on the wrap too. It also features “30A” in a huge font which many people will use as the cell’s rating when shopping or when a vendor displays it on their web site. For these reasons I feel the large “30A” rating, or any “pulse” or “max” rating, is misleading and shouldn’t be used.
I am rating this Nitecore at 22A and 2100mAh. It appears to be a Samsung rewrap and might just be 2000mAh cells that test well for capacity. Its performance is similar to the 20R but its appearance isn’t a perfect match to the 20R’s I have.
The two cells that were tested were purchased by me from IMRBatteries.
Test results, discharge graph, photos: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/nitecore-30a-2100mah-18650-bench-test-results-useless-30a-rating-only-22a.802835/
All my test results to date: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/list-of-battery-tests.7436/
A BATTERY MOOCH POST: A change in how I am rating some batteries
I will no longer be saying a battery is accurately rated if the “pulse” rating is in huge numbers on the wrap, even if the accurate continuous current rating is also on the wrap in fine print.
This has been bothering me for a while but Nitecore has pushed me over the edge. While they have the continuous and (useless) pulse ratings spelled out it’s done in the tiniest of print while the pulse rating is repeated in huge numbers.
It’s clear to me that Nitecore, and other companies, want us to think that the pulse rating is the battery’s true rating. There are two problems with this…
1) Pulse ratings are utterly and completely useless unless we know some things about how the ratings were set. There are no standards for a pulse rating. Without knowing the length of the pulse, the time between pulses, and the criteria used to set the rating (temperature? run time? voltage sag? a combination of these?) we can’t compare one battery’s pulse rating against another’s. They’re useless.
2) These “pulse” ratings can be dangerously high. While you might normally be able to vape at that high a level without too much risk, since the current is pulsed, these ratings don’t take our safety into account in case of a mod malfunction or accidental button press. This can cause the battery to be discharged continuously, possibly causing it to vent (most likely not go into thermal runaway and burst though).
From now on whatever number is the most prominent one on the wrap will be the one I use as its claimed rating. This will be handled on a case by case basis and might need to be adjusted as a policy as testing continues.
Batteries that list both ratings equally, e.g., “20A/40A”, will have their useless pulse ratings mentioned but the first number will be considered as the continuous current rating.
This is not a perfect system and I’m sure it will need to be tweaked at some point but it’s a step that needed to be taken now due to the way these companies are presenting their ratings on the wrap.
Examples: https://imgur.com/a/dyuY8
CONGRATS CHRIS PHILLIPS!
Congratulations to Chris on winning a “Not A” Contest!!
THE GREAT PURGE OF 2017 TO BENEFIT CASAA
It has happened. I’m at a breaking point. I need to do something about it, and this is what I’ve decided on.
Back when I started reviewing, things were a bit easier. There was a process. A manufacturer or vendor would contact me with an item to review. The item would either be approved or not. If approved, the manufacturer or vendor would be sent a questionnaire form to complete and that form had to be sent in both an email and included in the box with the product. No approval, no questionnaire, no review.
That was when things started, now I’m receiving unsolicited product on almost a daily basis. Sometimes the same product being sent by multiple manufacture’s representatives. Sometimes too many duplicates to even keep up with in the “Not A” Contests. Although this is a great problem to have, and it’s a problem I’m sincerely appreciative for, nonetheless, it’s still a problem and I’ve begun to push back.
Manufacturers and vendors must follow the standard process in order for me to look at a product either in a “Show & Tell” a “Quick Look” or a “Full Busardo” (Thanks Mark Todd 🙂 ). There will be no exceptions especially due to my limited amount of time to actually use & test products and produce the videos.
If you have interest in me looking at a product PLEASE send an email to pbusardo@tasteyourjuice.com. The email should contain a description of the product in question along with photos and links when available.
To those manufactures and vendors who DID follow the process and I will still unable to look at your products due to time constraints… thank you and my sincerest apologies.
So what do I do with all the product I’ve received and those older items in the queue?
“THE GREAT PURGE OF 2017 TO BENEFIT CASAA”
I’m going to pull a bunch of product that I still have interest in and intentions on doing videos with them and items that will wind up in the End Of Year Stocking Contest. The rest will wind up in a pile. The pile will be great. Like “open your own vape shop” great or “convert a ton of smokers great”. It will contain both old and new devices, tanks, drippers, coils, etc. You will have the opportunity to bid on the pile. Anyone is welcome to bid as long as the shipping address is in the United States… individuals, vape shops, manufacturers, organizations, etc.
The winner receives the pile and all proceeds for the auction will be donated to CASAA. Additional winner’s goodies will be announced.
I will handle all the shipping costs.
The review queue will be wiped clean.
So in the next several days as I work on the Germany video, I’m also going to be sorting through lots of product.
Stay tuned for more information on how to place your bid.
And so the pile begins…
Thanks everyone and Vape Happy My Friends!!
WHAT’S WRONG WITH E-CIGARETTES?
Simple, concise, to the point, and worth sharing. Very well done!!
May 8, 2017 Presented by CAROLINE KITCHENS
Are e-cigarettes a safe alternative to cigarettes? Could they help millions of smokers quit smoking? If so, why would anti-tobacco activists oppose e-cigarettes? Get the truth about e-cigarettes in this short video.
CONGRATS KEVIN!
Kevin finally won one!! Congrats on winning a “Not A” Contest! Kevin can be seen with his winning below.
THE JOYETECH EVIC PRIMO MINI & NEW “NOT A” CONTEST
A PBusardo Review – The Joyetech eVic Primo Mini & New “Not A” Contest
In this video talk quickly about the iJust and Penguin from a MTL perspective, then take a full look at the JoyeTech eVic Primo Mini. We also touch on their new tank, the ProCore Aries & kick off a new “Not A” Contest.
The Links:
Joyetech
Eleaf
MyVaporStore
Conviction E-Liquids
Courage E-Liquids
The Video:
*NOTE: Any use of these videos in part or in their entirety without Phil Busardo’s expressed written consent is strictly prohibited.
The Photos:
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